For the record: none of the teachers named on this site have contacted me to ask or tell me to stop or have, in any way that I have seen, opposed our expression of concern about this teaching.
Supporters of the teaching have been contacting me to challenge my right to speak and I have been strongly encouraged to leave the concerns behind, but those admonitions have not come from these teachers.
I won't speak for anyone else, but I don't want any misconceptions coming from this or other audios.
The various **general** and slanderous charges hurled against us by the coward(s) accusing us of making slanderous and murderous statements, are not only untrue, but they are in themselves slanderous; criminal, and untrue. Any coward can hurl a **general** accusation(s), however when there are pure motives involved, specific concerns will be addressed not general ones. The hateful reactions to the audio programs listed here have the work of the enemy written all over them. Here is just one specific example. One of the teachers (and there are OVER 30 teachers who we believe are pushing their form of universalism being addressed here) made a statement that the theological concerns raised in the audio discussion that we have recorded have been inaccurate. They and some of their followers have posted this publicly through several means, online as a **general** statement. However, it is one thing to say that there were inaccuracies; yet it is another to say, "the folks representing this website are saying that we are teaching universalism however because we deny that we are teaching universalism, we feel that they are inaccurate." ... but this isn't being done! Only general statements / accusations which breed further suspicions; and confusion. "You'll know a tree by the fruit by it's fruit!" I have found in my 15 years of dealing with those who embrace the false gospel of universalism whether it be overt universalism or the subtle universalism promoted by those who are embracing this erroneous movement of trinitarianism a.k.a "trinitarian universalism" that they are being controlled, at least by some degree, by "another spirit" ... controlled by the enemy in their minds. The intention of this site is to alert folks of the dangerous teachings and contrasts between the basic biblical essentials of the faith in compared to the radical departure of the foundations and essentials of the faith by what we believe is the subtle universalism that is flooding so many folks in the new covenant grace / exchanged life communities. As we have no approached 5000 visits in just a little over a month; we are grateful for this platform to alert as many folks who are unknowingly falling for this extremely dangerous and subtle deception of trinitarian universalism.
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For the record: none of the teachers named on this site have contacted me to ask or tell me to stop or have, in any way that I have seen, opposed our expression of concern about this teaching.
Supporters of the teaching have been contacting me to challenge my right to speak and I have been strongly encouraged to leave the concerns behind, but those admonitions have not come from these teachers.
I won't speak for anyone else, but I don't want any misconceptions coming from this or other audios.
Dave Orrison
Y'all can sure find justifications for your behavior.
The various **general** and slanderous charges hurled against us by the coward(s) accusing us of making slanderous and murderous statements, are not only untrue, but they are in themselves slanderous; criminal, and untrue. Any coward can hurl a **general** accusation(s), however when there are pure motives involved, specific concerns will be addressed not general ones. The hateful reactions to the audio programs listed here have the work of the enemy written all over them. Here is just one specific example. One of the teachers (and there are OVER 30 teachers who we believe are pushing their form of universalism being addressed here) made a statement that the theological concerns raised in the audio discussion that we have recorded have been inaccurate. They and some of their followers have posted this publicly through several means, online as a **general** statement. However, it is one thing to say that there were inaccuracies; yet it is another to say, "the folks representing this website are saying that we are teaching universalism however because we deny that we are teaching universalism, we feel that they are inaccurate." ... but this isn't being done! Only general statements / accusations which breed further suspicions; and confusion. "You'll know a tree by the fruit by it's fruit!" I have found in my 15 years of dealing with those who embrace the false gospel of universalism whether it be overt universalism or the subtle universalism promoted by those who are embracing this erroneous movement of trinitarianism a.k.a "trinitarian universalism" that they are being controlled, at least by some degree, by "another spirit" ... controlled by the enemy in their minds. The intention of this site is to alert folks of the dangerous teachings and contrasts between the basic biblical essentials of the faith in compared to the radical departure of the foundations and essentials of the faith by what we believe is the subtle universalism that is flooding so many folks in the new covenant grace / exchanged life communities. As we have no approached 5000 visits in just a little over a month; we are grateful for this platform to alert as many folks who are unknowingly falling for this extremely dangerous and subtle deception of trinitarian universalism.
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